Sep 18, 2024
JD Vance ADMITS Trump's Real Healthcare Plan...And It's TERRIFYING
Vice presidential candidate JD Vance tried to clean up former President Donald Trump's debate answer about his non-existent healthcare plan.
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Trump's health care plan is is
actually quite straightforward.
Is you want to make sure that preexisting
coverage conditions are covered.
You want to make sure that people have
access to the doctors that they need.
And you also want to implement some
deregulatory agenda so that people can
choose a health care plan that fits them.
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He, of course, does have a plan
for how to fix American health care,
but a lot of it goes down
to deregulating the insurance market.
There you have Donald
Trump's VP pick, J.D.
Vance, cleaning up the mess that he left
behind following the presidential debate,
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in which Trump said that he had
a concept of a health care plan.
Not a great answer. So, of course, J.D.
Vance is trying to clean up the mess.
But Vance also made an extremely dubious
claim about how Trump approached the issue
of health care while he was president.
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So let's see what Vance had to say, and
then we'll break it down with the facts.
Let's back up a little bit to 2017, 2018,
when Obamacare was actually collapsing
under the weight of the regulatory burdens
and collapsing under the weight
of lack of funding.
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And Donald Trump had two choices.
He could have destroyed the program,
or he could actually build upon it
and make it better so that Americans
didn't lose a lot of health care.
He chose to build upon a plan, even though
it came from his Democratic predecessor.
Why should voters believe
that a plan is forthcoming?
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When you've heard Donald Trump
say so many times in the past that he's
going to be putting forward a plan?
It still hasn't happened yet.
Well, because Donald Trump actually
governed for four years, and he actually
protected those 20 million Americans
from losing their health coverage.
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Okay so there's a lot to unpack here.
So I want to first just start off
with the inaccurate claim
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that the Affordable Care Act
or Obamacare was running out of money,
which is why Trump had to spring
into action during his first term
and do something about it.
That is not true. And I want to be clear.
The Affordable Care Act was modeled
after a Heritage Foundation health
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care plan that was implemented
in the state of Massachusetts
under Mitt Romney when he was governor.
I say that because Obama implemented
a Heritage Foundation
health care plan nationally, federally.
If it wasn't Obama, and it was instead
a Republican who implemented that national
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health care plan, Republicans would love
it and they would be singing its praises.
But since a Democrat did it, they hate it.
And they've tried to repeal it
so many times, they've tried to repeal
it dozens of times and have failed.
You want to know why they failed?
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Because it turns out that most Americans
actually enjoy a lot of what the
Affordable Care Act has given them
in terms of protections against being
dropped from their health care company.
If they have a preexisting condition,
you guys get the point.
It has massive flaws,
and people, understandably, were furious
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once they realized the Affordable Care Act
would essentially force Americans
to buy private insurance.
But other than that,
it did provide protections for Americans
that they previously did not have.
That is part of the reason
why Republicans have failed
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time and time again in repealing it.
Now, of course, Donald Trump
has been a loud proponent of repealing
and replacing Obamacare for years now.
In his interview after being elected
president, he said that the repeal
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and replace would be done simultaneously.
On his first day in office, Trump
signed an executive order proclaiming it
is the policy of my administration
to seek the prompt repeal of the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act.
And under his leadership as president,
congressional Republicans
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tried to repeatedly do that.
They also tried just repealing
Obamacare with no replacement.
And then they also tried a skinny,
more limited repeal
where they would do away with the mandate.
And now the mandate is
what I was talking about earlier.
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The federal mandate would force you
to buy private insurance,
and if you don't, well, then you get
a penalty when you file your taxes.
They tried to repeal that part,
but believe it or not,
the Supreme Court upheld the mandate.
They did not allow Congress to repeal it.
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And more importantly, the response
from Republicans was essentially
to limit the penalty for not abiding
by the mandate to $0. So essentially,
the mandate is ineffective now
because of the fact that even if you don't
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buy private insurance, you don't have
to worry about that penalty.
So none of their attempts, though,
in repealing the plan overall worked.
And Trump even endorsed a lawsuit
that would have wiped out
the Affordable Care Act by essentially
rendering it unconstitutional.
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But again, the Supreme Court
ruled against his wishes.
So I'm going to bring you in, Jon, because
let's talk a little bit about what J.D.
Vance said there during this interview
because he says, you know,
Trump definitely has a plan.
He has a plan.
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He doesn't really detail
what that plan is.
But he did mention that he would pursue
deregulation of the health care industry.
That doesn't surprise me.
I mean, that's usually
what Republicans want to do.
And doing it in regard to the health
care industry could actually have
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some pretty disastrous consequences.
He wasn't specific.
I don't know what that means deregulation
in this context, but what do you think?
I think it's going to suck.
Look, they already when during Trump's
first term, they already made it possible
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for insurance companies
to offer like less helpful plans,
plans that are not as good coverage.
They can still charge for it,
just not as good.
They're going to ramp that up and you're
going to be paying for health insurance,
that if you have a medical emergency,
you're going to be screwed
even more than you already are.
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So that'll be fun for a lot of people.
But some people who are desperate
because the cost of insurance
might sign up for them,
and then it'll eventually utterly
wipe them out if they ever
actually need to use that insurance,
so that'll be a lot of fun.
And so there's also concerns
about allowing, you know,
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insurance companies to once again,
not cover preexisting conditions.
If you deregulate them,
that's conceivably an area
that you would want to get involved in.
I mean, it's just it's such a like
the the idea that he's like,
I guess waiting for Trump to actually come
out with some details, but he has to
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maintain the fiction until that happens,
that there's literally anything maintain
the fiction that since Donald Trump said
he had a concept of a plan, that he's
put more than 2 or 3 seconds of thought
into it, which he definitely has not.
And it's just such a wildly
dishonest attempt to rewrite history
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of what Donald Trump actually did.
They campaigned on we're going
to kill this thing
because we're misreading the country
and thinking that people want it killed.
We're going to try to kill it.
We're going to not succeed.
Oops. People hate that.
So he had a choice
to kill it or to save it.
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No he didn't.
He didn't have to do anything.
He could have left it alone.
Actually, that's what he could have done.
I don't know why killing it was an option
that you think he had to face.
And so now, because he spent four years
doing nothing to strengthen.
In fact, you already went through
a couple of the ways
that they potentially weakened it.
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You know, the individual mandate
obviously wasn't popular.
There was a financial reason
that it existed.
It helped to lower overall costs
by making sure that as many people
are part of the system as possible, right.
And they also removed a couple
of different cost sharing provisions
that the federal government helped
to defray the costs for different states.
They took away some of the money
that was meant to make it easier
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for people to sign up on healthcare.gov.
They weakened it
and made it more inconvenient
in a number of different ways.
But none of that fits in with his idea
that he strengthened it in any way.
Nobody has better coverage.
Some people might pay less only because
they have coverage that barely exists.
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So again, it's just a really weird
rewriting of history.
And I think he knows that people
don't generally trust their ticket
when it comes to this topic.
Yeah.
And to your point, polling indicates
that 62% of Americans actually have a
favorable view of the affordable Care Act.
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Only 37% have an unfavorable favorable
view, and that's based on a poll
that was taken this year in April.
And that doesn't surprise me, honestly,
because even though I do feel
that the Affordable Care Act is flawed
in certain ways, the fact of the matter
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is the provisions within it.
There were incredibly
popular provisions within it,
including coverage of preexisting
conditions allowing people to remain
on their parents health care plan
up until the age of 26. Those things
might seem minor to some people,
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but they're not minor,
certainly not minor.
When you consider
that the health insurance companies
basically considered everyone as having
some sort of preexisting condition.
And so I remember people, you know,
just not being able to find any coverage
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because no insurance company
would take them based off of a BS claim
that they had a preexisting condition.
So I understand why it's popular.
And I do also understand
how the Trump Vance ticket
are kind of backed into a corner
when it comes to the issue of health care,
but here's what I really think
is going to happen with health care
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if regardless of who gets elected.
To be honest, nothing.
I don't think anything is going to happen
to our health care system.
I don't think anyone's
going to improve it.
I don't think anyone's
really focused on it.
I think the fact that Donald Trump didn't
have an answer during the debate in regard
to what his health care policy would be,
shows that it's not even something
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he's thinking about or considering.
And so that is depressing
in and of itself,
not necessarily when it comes to Trump,
but just overall that even though we still
do have a flawed health care system,
no one's really seriously proposing
any detailed policy
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in what they would like to do to fix it.
So we're just guessing what J.D.
Vance is saying here, right?
And look, to be fair to him
during the interview,
he did also make clear that, you know,
preexisting conditions should be covered.
So when it comes to deregulation,
at least based on what he's saying,
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he wouldn't want to do away with
the coverage for preexisting conditions.
You could believe him or not.
But that's beside the point.
I just don't think either party
is really focused on doing anything
about health care, period.
What do you think about that?
I think we can talk about intent.
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We can talk about
how much it might be tried.
I do think, it is difficult
for virtually anything to get done,
even if it's wildly popular.
Even more popular
than reforming insurance would be.
It is difficult to get, you know,
the Republicans to go along
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with virtually anything being passed,
particularly if it's going to cost money.
And so that seems unlikely.
Some of this could be dependent
on the results of the election,
not just at the presidential level.
But I don't think that anyone is
predicting that things are going
to go so well for the Democrats,
that they're going to have free reign
to do anything that they might even want
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to do, let alone would be able to do,
you know, if things are still as split
as they are right now.
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