Sep 26, 2024
WATCH: Mark Cuban GUSHES Over Kamala Harris, Rips Bernie Sanders
Billionaire entrepreneur Mark Cuban ripped former President Donald Trump and Senator Bernie Sanders.
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I talked to a lot of friends who are
Trump fans, and they initially would say,
well, I haven't heard her speak.
I don't know if she can
stand up to scrutiny.
I don't know her policies.
And what I've always told them
is be patient.
She's pro-business,
that she can think on her feet, that she's
responsive, that she's thorough.
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She's not impulsive like Donald Trump.
Mark Cuban is working overtime
to help get Kamala Harris elected as
the next president of the United States.
But in doing so, he actually ended up
comparing Donald Trump's economic policies
to that of Bernie Sanders.
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How does that make any sense?
Well, let's hear him make his case.
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On a recent Harris campaign call,
you compared policy proposals made
by Trump to those from independent Senator
Bernie Sanders, who's a socialist.
What do you mean?
Well, it was a race for socialism, right?
Bernie said that credit card companies
should cap their rates,
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their interest rates at 15%.
Donald Trump, being the socialist
that he is, had to beat Bernie.
So Donald Trump went out and recommended
that interest rate caps be set to 10%.
That I mean, the fact that he's
even suggesting price controls
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and price caps is socialism 101.
You haven't heard that
from the vice president.
You have heard that from Donald Trump.
So what I'm getting is
that Mark Cuban is so out of touch
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that he thinks that what he just said
is going to hurt Donald Trump.
Right.
And that what Donald Trump would want
to do with capping interest rates
for credit cards at 10%, by the way,
which is not a small amount.
That's socialism,
which obviously it's not.
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- It is not.
- Yeah.
So first of all, there used
to be laws against usury,
and what that meant is you charge
too much interest that is unpayable.
That was called loan sharking.
And that was a serious crime
that mobsters and gangsters did.
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So they took away those laws.
Now, you could charge
almost anything you want,
and they'll charge 200% interest, etc.,
which no one could possibly pay back.
To be fair, Donald Trump does know that
because he took out a 14%
interest rate for the Taj Mahal,
one of his casinos in Atlantic City.
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It bankrupted that casino and then caused
the Dominos, which falls all three
of his casinos in Atlantic City to fall.
So he knows 14% is not doable.
Even if you're a so-called billionaire.
So. But the most important thing is Mark
Cuban and the rest of the establishment
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not realizing
that people want lower interest payments
on their credit card payments.
That's not complicated.
- You'd have to be an ism.
- It's socialism.
But again, when Kamala Harris
talks about fighting inflation,
which is price gouging, inflation is I
mean, inflation is what we call it.
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And when you have corporate record
profits, it is just price gouging.
And Kamala Harris talking about having
price caps on goods to help the American
consumer that gets called socialism.
But when I first heard Cuban,
who I applaud for trying
to beat Donald Trump, God bless him.
But when I heard he was comparing Trump
to Bernie, I thought, oh, well,
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that must be because Donald Trump
launched his campaign in 2015
campaigning on single payer health care.
Let's not forget, Donald Trump talked
about it in all the debates in 2015.
The advantages of single payer health care
before he realized
he had a chance to win.
And now he calls that socialism.
I do think that Cuban is looking for
excuses to give aristocrats and oligarchs
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a reason to bail Trump out.
I don't think Dick Cheney is going to be
the thing that gives right wing people
the excuse they need to bail on Trump.
I think it's going to be the tariffs.
I think it's going to be
the insane stupidity that tariffs
will somehow pay for childcare.
That's going to give a lot of evil
rich men an excuse to cut Trump loose.
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Yeah. So Trump did say that.
And that makes.
Look I'm actually a lot warmer to tariffs
than everyone in the Democratic side,
which is shocking because Democrats used
to be in favor of tariffs and Republicans
used to be like 100% free trade.
So things are kind of realigning
in a weird way.
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But I will say what Trump said
about tariffs paying for childcare
in America made no sense.
Yeah.
Nikki Haley is using that
to cut him loose again.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
I don't know why he said that. So stupid.
But to your point, there was
an interesting exchange on CNN
where they also said that Donald Trump's
economic policies seem more liberal
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than Kamala Harris's economic policies.
Let's take a look at that.
Tariffs aren't unique to President Trump.
President Biden has tariffs in place.
He's actually looking
to potentially implement more.
Where do you come out on.
Is there a good tariff a bad tariff.
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Well, part of it is you don't
just throw around the idea
of just tariffs across the board.
And that's part of the problem
with Donald Trump, frankly,
and I say this in all sincerity,
he's just not very serious about how he
thinks about some of these issues.
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And one must be serious
and have a plan and a real plan that's not
just about some talking point ending
in an exclamation at a political rally,
but actually putting the thought into
what will be the return on the investment,
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what will be the economic impact
on everyday people?
I think one thing we should note
is that she didn't actually answer
what would be a good tariff
and what would be a bad tariff.
Kind of getting back to that idea, Wolf,
that Americans aren't necessarily hearing
the type of specificity from her
that they would want to.
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So I agree with the analysis
at the end of that clip.
But I also just want to note, look,
Donald Trump didn't implement
tariffs across the board.
He implemented tariffs on China.
And then Biden came in.
And this is what the question was about.
And he doubled down on those tariffs.
And I am actually in favor of that.
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And I know there's a lot of debate about
it, but I actually do want to hear more
from Kamala Harris about, okay, well,
where do you think tariffs make sense?
Because you think
that they could make sense.
Sure. But you aren't being specific.
And would you repeal the tariffs
that were implemented by Biden
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or expanded by you would.
Agree that tariff wars don't make sense.
That's what got Herbert Hoover
into trouble.
Yeah.
Look, obviously there's a way to do it.
But I think free trade
has some serious consequences.
And Trump was the first
presidential candidate in many decades
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who at least acknowledged that
that did lead to jobs being outsourced.
- Yeah.
- So look, I don't love tariffs.
And I think that that's
probably not the best way.
But you never know.
And I've said this before
like you've got to be reciprocal.
So when China says oh yeah we should
get rid of tariffs but only you not us,
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that's not acceptable.
So you have to find a way
to reciprocate them.
But look guys,
it's Kamala Harris is more likely to find
the right balance, of course.
Right. Donald Trump just.
But the most important thing
you have to know is neither one of them
is going to do any of these things.
Okay, so Trump might do some form of
tariffs, but the numbers are all made up.
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So like on the credit card one Kamala
Harris would maybe say cap it at 15%.
Right. And Trump goes oh yeah 10%.
He's not going to do that.
All the he's a fake populist.
Everything that he proposed that was
populist single payer health care.
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This credit card thing,
the no tax on the tip wages.
He said they're all lies.
He's not going to do any of them.
How do I know he was president already
for four long years.
He had a time to do all those things.
He never did any of the things
that he promised.
- He made Mexico pay.
- For the wall.
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I mean, I mean, sorry. The troops.
Sorry. You're going.
Yeah.
He didn't he forgot about the wall
with six months left.
And that's to his core of his base. Right.
There's only one thing
he remembered to do.
Lower corporate tax rates.
Right.
So. But now, back to the politics of this.
I think Kamala Harris
is playing this wrong.
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And so, look, I think Mark Cuban
is a relatively reasonable guy, you know.
I got no beef with Mark Cuban at all.
But when she asks him
to go all over cable news.
Obviously the campaign did. Right.
This is coordinated.
He's not just going rogue
and tell everybody I'm pro-business.
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I'm pro corporations,
I'm pro corporations, and Donald Trump is
too liberal, and he's too much of a Bernie
Sanders and he's too populist.
You're helping him.
You're helping him
with this fake populism.
He doesn't mean any of that stuff.
When did how did Kamala Harris wind
up going from losing to gaining the lead?
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She picked Tim Walz and she released
an economically populist agenda,
the one that we were all excited about
at the convention.
She gains the lead.
Now she's looking to give it away.
So this is being bragging
about how pro-corporate you are.
Terrible idea.
Bragging about
how pro Dick Cheney you are.
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Terrible idea.
She's done it multiple times
bragging about.
How pro Dick Cheney she is.
Yeah, I mean, the corporate thing I get
because this is how Democrats get elected.
They convince everyone we're not liberals.
And you throw all the liberals
under the parade float.
It's the oldest thing.
Joe Biden is the only example in my
lifetime where a guy went more to the left
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to become president.
Kamala Harris is doing the same playbook.
We saw Barack Obama
and Bill Clinton after, actually.
Okay, so you're noticing something.
I actually do not think that Biden
campaigned as further to the left.
No, I think he.
- Got dragged there.
- But he did get dragged there.
I what Kamala Harris
is now branding herself
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as as I'm not as far left as Biden.
Exactly right.
And so I agree that that is an attempt
to ease the nerves
of like the business community that, you
know, are like, oh my God, is she really
going to try to tax unrealized gains?
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She's not going to try to do that.
That's ridiculous.
And I don't even think
that would be a good policy if you're
looking for, you know, wealthy people
to pay their fair share in taxes.
But the thing that I will say is,
look, I don't know,
to answer your question about Cheney,
on two different occasions
after he had endorsed her,
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she talked about how honored she was
in the context of one of the interviews.
She bragged about it.
I do not think that's a good tactic.
I would not be honored
to be endorsed by Dick Cheney.
A literal war criminal.
Let's not align ourselves
with Bush era neocons.
That's not a good idea.
Yes, but she is presenting herself
as more moderate and more pro-business
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than we've seen from other Democratic
candidates in recent election cycles.
Yeah, I'm worried she's going
to start slipping in the polls.
And this this feels like
the old Biden team,
be it the not doing enough media like.
So she did this one.
Why did she do Stephanie Ruhle?
Because Stephanie Ruhle said on Bill
Maher's show just a couple of days ago
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that Kamala Harris
shouldn't have to do any interviews.
So Kamala Harris was like, oh, she's going
to give me the softest interview
in the world, so I'll just go do that one.
Look, go make your case.
I don't know why there has.
I do know the Biden team is not smart.
So this is the time for bold policy
proposals that turn people on
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and make people want to show up and vote,
even if you don't mean it.
This is the time for bold policy proposals
that when they fail, you can say,
oh, those darn Republicans
blocked me from doing it.
I don't know why I'm saying Mark Cuban
on my TV every day and not Tim Walz.
I don't know what happened to Tim Walz
because he was
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I enjoyed the Tim Walz show.
I can't find it on my TV right now.
So they need to get out there
and and just go bold with this.
But the most important thing
to remember is just like every other
Democratic president of our lifetime,
the biggest sin would be if people on the
left liberals, progressives, anti-evil you
know who you are checked out.
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Oh, there's a Democrat in the office now.
We'll fight for,
oh, I can go and watch the Kardashians.
The only thing that works
is voting for these Democrats
and then holding their feet to the fire
and kicking their butts every single day
to fulfill the agenda they promised.
We have to stay engaged 100%
on these Democrats
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to make them do what they promised.
Because in my lifetime, guys, that's
the only thing I've seen that works.
Yeah.
So last super quick point on not enough,
not enough media.
You go and you make your case
and you get more voters.
And I guess they were worried
about Kamala Harris,
but she's done fine in the interviews.
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She's done plenty fine enough
that I would send her to do ten more,
20 more, even if she slips up in 1 or 2
because she's human.
At least you made your case
a 19 out of 20 interviews.
And to your point about Tim Walz,
I did a tweet yesterday.
Hashtag free Tim Walz. Where is he?
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Where is he?
Why did you put him
in Joe Biden's basement?
Let him out. He is super popular.
Don't be afraid of him
being too popular, folks.
Don't be afraid of that. Well, he.
Did some progressive economic policies
in Minnesota, and I'm sure that.
He's doing tons of rallies.
I don't see him on TV.
Well, I mean, we got to ease the nerves
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of the business community.
That's very worried.
You know, that's I think that's what it's
really about, to be honest with you.
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