Oct 9, 2024
DeSantis Tries To SILENCE Woman Sharing Her Tragic Abortion Story
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is unleashing lawyers on TV stations airing an ad that advocates for abortion access.
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When I saw the tumor on the MRI,
my first thought was am I going
to be able to see my daughter again?
The doctors knew
if I did not in my pregnancy,
I would lose my baby, I would lose my life
and my daughter would lose her mom.
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Florida has now banned abortion,
even in cases like mine.
Amendment four
is going to protect women like me.
We have to vote. Yes.
You just heard a story and watched a
political ad in regard to a ballot measure
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in the state of Florida,
meant to reverse some of the damage
that's been done
by the right wing politicians there
who have effectively banned abortion.
They've banned it past six weeks,
which means it's an effective ban,
considering the fact that most women
do not know they're pregnant at six weeks.
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Now, these Republicans,
led by Governor Ron DeSantis,
are trying to basically shut the woman you
heard from up and any television station
who shares her story
is being threatened because they think
that there are laws broken by this.
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They're threatening criminal prosecution.
I'm not even kidding.
That's insane.
So here's what's happening next month
during the election, of course,
Florida will vote on amendment four.
The initiative would provide
a constitutional right to abortion before
viability or when necessary, to protect
the patient's health, as determined
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by the patient's healthcare provider.
Essentially, they would reverse the damage
that's been done in recent years
and reinstate what the standard was
under Roe v Wade.
Now, currently, abortion is banned
after six weeks in Florida,
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with a few exceptions for the life of
the mother or if the fetus is in danger,
or if the woman some way somehow
is able to prove or provide evidence that
she became pregnant as the result of, you
know, rape or incest or human trafficking.
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Obviously, that is incredibly difficult
to do in time to ensure that the abortion
is done before 15 weeks.
Now, the group Floridians
Protecting Freedom is running ads,
basically trying to get people
to vote in favor of the amendment,
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including the ad that you just saw
at the beginning of the story
and the woman featured in the video
in the ad, her name is Caroline,
and she's actually already a mother.
But tragedy struck when she was
18 months along in her second pregnancy,
she started noticing she
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was having trouble with her speech.
She didn't know what was going on.
She goes to the doctor, they do an MRI,
and they find that she has a mass,
you know, in her brain,
and it's impacting her ability to speak.
Within a week, I got way worse.
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The mass grew a lot, and by then I wasn't
able to say what month it was, what day,
who the president was, anything.
And she was advised to undergo surgery,
which revealed
that she had a malignant tumor.
Stage four glioma.
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Now glioblastoma is the deadliest
form of brain cancer.
There is no cure, and treatment
can only slow its progression.
Less than 7% of patients
survive five years after diagnosis,
and that's according
to the National Brain Tumor Society.
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So she understood then that this diagnosis
meant that she would have to terminate her
pregnancy in order to get the treatment
she needs for her cancer.
She says, quote,
I just wanted to see my little girl again.
I wanted to keep my baby as well, but I
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would have I wouldn't be able to do the
chemo nor the radiation, and they wanted
me to get on that as soon as possible
because my tumor was very fast growing.
And then by that time,
Caroline was already 21 weeks along.
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And since it was 2022.
She was fortunate in that she
was able to do a termination.
The abortion was a two day process,
absolutely devastating
and emotionally devastating.
Absolutely, absolutely
the hardest decision
I've ever made in my life, she says.
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But she was able to terminate her
pregnancy at a facility near her home.
But under Florida's current abortion ban,
she would not be able to do this.
And so that is the reason why she decided
to get involved in this campaign.
That is why she was, you know,
involved in the ad that we watched
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at the very beginning of this story.
And now DeSantis administration
is literally threatening television
stations that run Caroline's ad.
The day after the ad began airing,
DeSantis Department of Health
dispatched a letter to Florida
based television stations carrying the ad,
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calling Caroline's assertions false.
They're not false and dangerous,
and the ad itself a sanitary nuisance
while threatening the TV stations
with criminal Penalties if the ad
was not taken down within 24 hours.
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Now, if you're wondering
like what is sanitary nuisance mean?
Well, it's it is a thing.
It's just that that thing
doesn't really apply to a political ad.
So a sanitary nuisance
is the commission of an act by which the
health or life of an individual,
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or the health or lives of individuals
may be threatened or impaired,
or by which a or by which directly
or indirectly disease may be caused.
Right.
So obviously, like that wording and that
citation makes absolutely no sense
in the in the context of a political ad
that DeSantis clearly just doesn't like.
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And ironically, they argued that the ad
puts the lives of Florida women in danger
and is thus illegal.
Their lawyers, John Wilson or their
lawyer, John Wilson, claimed
that Florida's ban would not prevent women
like Caroline from obtaining an abortion.
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It would just make the process, you know,
like, a lot more difficult because that's
what you want when someone has been
diagnosed with a devastating brain cancer.
That that has no cure, that can only
be treated like they they want to hear
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that getting the abortion they need
is going to be a lot harder.
Okay.
Anyway, let me give you one statement
and I want to hear what you think.
John.
He writes an abortion may be performed
if two physicians certify in writing
that that in reasonable medical judgment,
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the termination of the pregnancy
is necessary
to save the pregnant woman's life
or avert a serious risk of substantial and
irreversible physical impairment
of the major bodily function
of the pregnant woman
other than a psychological condition.
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But lawyers for amendment four
claim that no, the way the law is written
is incredibly vague,
and it doesn't even fall within.
Like her situation
doesn't fall within Florida's exceptions.
Caroline's diagnosis was terminal.
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Practically, that means that an abortion
would not have saved her life,
only extended it, they write,
arguing that Florida's ban does not
include exceptions for such cases.
Attaching
a signed declaration for a doctor.
A doctor attesting to the fact.
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Okay, so John, I know that that was
a long setup, but I wanted to give you
as many details as I could jump in.
Tell me what you think.
There are like, five different
insane things in that.
Let's start with the last one.
It wouldn't save her life.
It would only extend.
It would be a major moral distinction
to make if humans were naturally immortal.
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But we're not.
Every time you save someone's life,
it merely extends it.
We're all headed out the exit
sooner or later.
Are you saying that we have no inherent
right to extend our life a little bit?
I'm sorry.
- What the hell.
- Is a woman?
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- Not if you're a woman in Florida.
- Definitely.
What exactly is self-defense? Right.
It's when you do something, perhaps
use lethal harm to save your own life.
But you haven't saved your own life.
You've merely extended it
by not dying in that particular act.
Also, by the way,
the fundamental insane thing here is, Ron
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DeSantis is all this is obviously a lie.
He just he thinks it's a powerful ad
that highlights the reality of what he
and the Republicans have done.
And he knows it would be persuasive
in a way that Republicans have
never been persuasive on this topic.
And so he wants to kill it
because he doesn't want the ballot measure
to pass, or at the very least,
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he doesn't want a lot of people to be
motivated to go out and vote on the ballot
measure, because that potentially imperils
other races in Florida as well.
But the particular lie that they came
up with, I think, is the most amazing lie
that they could have.
That in particular, how dare you spread
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false and dangerous medical misinformation
that might potentially harm other people.
We Florida Republicans think you should
have no right to say anything medically
that could potentially harm other people,
and we will never stand for it.
That's literally the only principle
they've had over the last four years.
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You can tell people to put whatever you
want in their body and it's fine.
How dare they tell you
to take it down now they're going
to lock people up for running the ads.
Yeah, I gotta say, this move by DeSantis
is kind of hilarious, considering the fact
that he's targeting a political ad,
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which is the only type of advertising
that is allowed to lie to you
with absolutely no consequences.
Like, we have laws and regulations
against false advertising,
with the exception of political ads.
And in this case, this is the story of
a specific woman, what she went through.
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And I think that this angle that she's
presenting, you know, her life story,
by the way, incredibly brave to do it
because this is a super personal thing,
you know, to put it out there so publicly,
especially in a red state,
can be a scary thing to do.
But what it does is it draws attention
to why it is that so many people
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view reproductive rights
as healthcare, not just abortion.
Like it's not just, oh, there's someone
who's being super irresponsible
and they're having unprotected sex and
they're getting pregnant left and right,
and they instead of doing birth control,
they're just doing abortions
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as their birth control.
Like, no,
it's way more complicated than that.
And I think part of the problem is,
you know, a lot of the people
making these decisions are making
the decisions for political purposes.
They're doing it for themselves.
They're not really doing it
out of the best interests
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of the people they're representing.
And they just see it as, you know, a
political issue that they can exploit for
personal gain without even, by the way,
diving into it and understanding it
and thinking about what the ramifications
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are for people who, you know,
get devastating diagnoses like this.
Now, attorneys also called
the DeSantis administration's effort
an unconstitutional state action
that violates free speech,
because obviously it does.
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So the head of the Federal
Communications Commission on Tuesday
also issued a statement
calling the state's efforts dangerous
and said TV stations are right to air.
Political ads are rooted
in the First Amendment.
The television stations
didn't play ball at all.
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They continued airing the ads.
They were not afraid
because they apparently understand
First Amendment rights and laws pertaining
to false advertising in political ads
better than the governor does.
That's concerning.
But I do want to give you
a little bit of polling on this.
So a New York Times Siena College poll
asked if the 2024 election
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were held today, would you vote yes or no
on amendment four?
And I'm happy to say that 46% say
that they plan to vote yes. 38% say no.
But this is where it's concerning.
16% of the survey responders said that
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they don't know yet or refuse to answer.
So there's a lot of leeway there
where the results could go in a direction
where we don't want it to go.
Now, other polls over the last two months
have shown significantly more support,
though, so that's good news.
Two polls showed 56% and 55% support.
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Amendment four still short of what is
needed for it to pass though.
So in another poll at the end of July,
after Kamala Harris became
the Democratic presidential nominee,
69% said that they would vote yes.
And if that were the outcome,
then they would secure a win.
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We're just going to have to wait and see.
But, I'm really rooting
for you Floridians.
Please do the right thing.
This is, in my opinion, a human right.
This is an incredibly intimate, personal
decision that women should be able to make
with the advice of their doctors.
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This is a far more complicated issue than
our politicians would have you believe.
And so we'll wait and see what happens.
Any final words, John?
Yeah, I just.
Look, obviously the polls, you know,
different polls say different things,
but the idea that you should be denied
a right because 38% of your state
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thinks you shouldn't have it, and in fact,
you should die because you don't have it.
Because 38% of the state
doesn't think you should have.
It is insane.
That's not how a democracy
is supposed to run.
And by the way, it's there's a reason that
they keep trying to block these ballot
measures from being able to be voted on.
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It's because they know that people
don't actually agree with them,
and they want to brute force
the destruction of your rights.
They don't want the people
to actually decide.
I think that's definitely part of it.
But you also bring up a very good point
about how this is the kind of issue
that galvanizes voters,
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typically more liberal voters, and it
could negatively impact, various races and
hurt the Republican Party in those races.
So we'll see how it all plays out.
But I'm really rooting
for the people of Florida.
Please, please make sure you vote.
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And, I mean, there's no laws
preventing me from saying this,
so vote yes on amendment four.
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