Nov 6, 2024
Patrick Bet-David: THIS Is Why Trump Won
The PBD Podcast host Patrick Bet-David explains his support for Donald Trump.
- 15 minutes
Joining us now is Patrick Bet-david, host
of the Patrick Bet-david or Pbd podcast.
Big fan of Donald Trump obviously
comes from a different perspective
than we do here at TYT.
But Patrick, congratulations.
I'm sure you're elated
over last night's results.
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Yes. Thanks for having me on.
Well, I'll I'll start off.
Tell me what you think Donald Trump did
this time around to attract
a higher percentage of American voters?
I mean,
he honestly blew Kamala Harris out.
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It was unexpected.
But what do you think he did this time
around that made all the difference?
Well, I will tell you,
I think Kamala is the worst candidate
the left has had in a while.
I think if there was a primary,
she wouldn't have beaten Josh Shapiro.
She would've beaten Pritzker,
Newsom, maybe Whitmer at best,
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because that's just not her.
I don't see her as a one.
I see Whitmer as a one
more than I see her as a one.
So it was a terrible candidate
on the area of Trump.
If you think about A 2020.
There is an element.
You know how you create content.
Both of you would know this.
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You've been doing this for a long
time at the highest level.
I remember about seven years ago.
Six years ago, I pull in Mario
and I'm like, Mario, watch.
Watch the YouTube channel.
The last 100 videos that we have, see how
many of them have gone over 100,000 views.
And we first listed out
how many videos we have produced
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over a million views, 100 views.
So we had a lot of them.
And I said,
but let's look at the last 100 videos.
And we looked at it.
Only 2 or 3 videos were of 100,000 views.
He says, Pat, I cannot believe we're only
2 or 3. I said, why do you think that is?
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And he's giving me his ideas.
Try to be nice to me.
Like, well, I just think, you know this.
I think I said it's not the thumbnail.
I said it's not the title.
I said it's not any of that stuff.
It's the fact that I don't look like
I'm enjoying creating content.
And the audience can tell whenever you're
miserable like this and you're not happy
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about what you're doing, and you're bitter
and upset, the audience walks.
They want to watch somebody
that enjoys what they're doing.
President Trump in 2020 didn't seem happy.
He wasn't in Flow State in 2016.
He was in 2024.
I will tell you one of the interesting
things that happened with him
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in this 2024 election
and specifically the last five months.
I can't even say last year,
I can't even say eight months ago.
It's specifically the last five months.
He looked like he started having fun.
And when he's having fun, he's talking.
He's doing his trolling.
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He's, you know,
getting under people's skin.
He's doing his his thing.
He's being Trump.
He wins. That wasn't the case in 2024.
I can give you a lot of other things.
But the one it had,
the X factor for me is he looked like he
was having fun in 24, 20, 24. He didn't
look like he was having fun in 2020.
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So Patrick, there's folks on the left who
think that people voted for Trump because
in the in my opinion, the hilarious lingo
of some leftists, they centered
their whiteness above anything else.
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So obviously you guys disagree
that it's about race right?
Or gender.
So what would you say your audience would
say was the number one reason that that
they don't like the Democrats, they don't
trust the Democrats and they prefer Trump.
Well, I mean, if you think about for me,
I'll speak for myself.
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I'm still a registered independent
till today.
It's been 15 years
that I'm a registered independent.
You can go online and find
out what Pbd is registered for.
You'll see independent.
And I voted Bill Clinton and I think
Bill Clinton was a good president.
Just so you know, I thought
when people talk about Bill Clinton,
I thought he did a good job.
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I thought him being able to sit there
and work with Newt Gingrich,
making things work was exciting, was good.
But at that time, I wasn't married.
I didn't have kids.
I'm 46 years old today.
I got four kids,
and I got to kind of sit there
and think about who's better for my kids.
I lived in California 24 years.
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I ran a business in California
for 24 years.
I left California because one day some,
local, you know, assessor, tax assessor,
assessor comes up and he says,
hey, we heard your business is growing.
I said, yes, well, you oh, you need to pay
a local tax assessor tax of $69,000.
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I said, what are you talking about?
He said, yeah, I need to pay.
I said, for what?
Said, well, based on our estimation,
this is how much you need to pay.
Nothing. Audited estimation.
I go to the seventh floor,
which was my accounting firm at the time.
I said, what is this all about?
This is what happens
one out of 20 business owners.
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But if they come to you,
you got to pay for it.
I said, what are you talking about,
$69,000?
He says, yes.
I said, what counties or cities in LA
do I not have to pay a assessor tax?
And I don't remember at that time
I thought he said,
Victorville, Burbank, Glendale,
Santa Monica, couple these cities.
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I said, I'm going to move to Glendale.
So I moved my headquarters to Glendale
because I want to be in a place that I
can reinvest that money into the business.
Eventually, I left California
because I didn't think California
was a pro-business state.
Hence, today, after Covid,
two states in America lost $1 trillion
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of assets under management.
New York and California bad policies
push business owners like me,
like Musk, like many others out.
Now I go to Texas.
I live in Texas for five years.
Dallas, Texas fell in love with Texas,
but I wanted the best of both worlds.
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I wanted California and I wanted Texas.
California and Texas had a baby.
It's Florida. I moved to Florida.
Being in Florida, I like DeSantis,
that he protects my kids.
Even in Texas.
One night when my first two kids
are fully vaccinated, the third kid fewer
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the fourth kid, we wanted the options
on what to do and what not to do.
Do you know, in Texas
there is no religious exemption.
In Florida there is.
So for me, at this phase of my life,
when me and my wife
are getting smarter educated, we're making
decisions on clear philosophies
on how we want to raise our family.
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Probably one of the main things
that Trump appealed to family,
people like me, it sounded sane.
Some of the stuff the left
was saying made no sense to me.
What are we talking about?
On what some of the messages
that were given.
I understand the a pro-abortion,
the pro-life debate.
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No problem.
I actually understand that argument
on how it can be made on both sides.
I'm a Christian myself.
My position is pretty clear where I'm
going to be at, but I can fully understand
that being a debate to be talking about.
So they went a little bit too much.
By the way, Joe Biden
was a moderate Democrat.
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I know a lot of people on the right
are going to be upset with me.
How could you say it was
a moderate Democrat and all?
He was a moderate, but he was forced
to act like he was a progressive.
But Kamala was a progressive, trying to
act like she's a moderate, and she wasn't.
And people just didn't believe her.
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Yeah, I disagree with you a little bit
on that last point.
I don't think Kamala Harris
really has a political identity.
I think Kamala Harris
will kind of change her political identity
depending on what she thinks is
beneficial for her in getting elected.
So, look, I'm a populist,
so I can't stand the donor class
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and the establishment, etc..
I think the Democratic Party lost
not because they used corporate robot
versus corporate robot be?
I think that they all would have lost.
I think that I think DeSantis
probably would have lost.
I think that Trump
has a gigantic advantage
because he appears to be authentic.
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He appears to be populist.
I've been on your show, you know that.
I don't think he actually is populist.
So that brings us to the question,
which is, look, there is a real rift
in the Republican Party.
For the first time in my life,
in the old days, it was always no, Mitch
McConnell and Dick Cheney and George Bush
are wonderful people, and they got it.
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Just the donors need everything.
And thank God Mitch
McConnell got it to them.
Right.
And now I know a lot of people
hate Mitch McConnell,
and they don't like the donor class.
They become more populist.
But I'm worried about their authenticity.
I'm worried that if Trump starts to do all
the things that are not at all populist,
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but the old Republican way
of giving everything to the corporations,
give everything to the donors,
that you guys aren't really going
to object, and that your audience
would be mad at you if you objected.
And so I'm worried that that that there
will not be any kind of populist,
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not not only an uprising on the right,
but an even an objection on the right
if Trump begins to betray his promises.
Does more war in the Middle East, etc.?
Yeah.
I don't disagree with you.
And by the way, you have to also realize
even on the right
after what happened with Hamas and Israel,
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the conservatives had different factions
that that you would look at on
the positions that they had and the,
you know, military industrial
complex community is like, hey,
why are we trying to go to war?
This John Bolton guy,
this, this, all these, you know,
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Liz Cheney is now this incredible woman
that Whoopi Goldberg on The View.
Oh my God, Liz, you're so amazing.
Her father was like the ultimate
military industrial complex.
Now the left is kissing her ass.
What the hell happened to the left?
The one area with Trump
that you got to give him credit for.
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He doesn't want war.
And he said it,
and he did it while he was in.
And I don't know if you guys saw
what Dmitri Medvedev said a couple
of days ago when he came out.
And he said, if Trump even thinks
about trying to prevent or get
in the way of our war with us and Ukraine.
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There will be a JFK
type style assassination.
I'm sure you saw that.
And then he came out and he says,
Kamala Harris is dumb, is stupid,
is uneducated and controllable.
I think these are some of the words
that he used against them.
So, of course, you know,
the position that he had
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for the first four years doesn't want war.
Is he going to go out
and all of a sudden be pro-war?
If he does that, Jake,
the base that supported him is going
to be very, very loud and against it.
It's just going to happen.
Now, who he puts in as his chief of staff,
you know, is he going
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to bring somebody from the swamp?
Who's he going to put around him
as a team I don't know.
I mean, at this point of the game,
the market votes you in.
Then once they vote you in,
then they hold you accountable for what
you said you were going to do that part.
Of course, we have to watch to see what's
going to happen the next. 12 2436 months.
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Patrick, you know,
I know you have limited time.
Can I ask you one more question
about the anti-war message from Trump?
So I hear you that he, you know,
boasts about not starting any new wars.
He did take some actions in his first term
that could have very well driven the
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United States into a hot war with Iran,
which I was concerned about at the time.
To your credit, you're right.
The America First crowd, part of his base
that does not want to go to war,
pushed back on the possibility
of Trump conducting an airstrike in Iran.
And he called that airstrike off.
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But I am worried because right now
you have Benjamin Netanyahu,
the prime minister of Israel,
elated that Trump got elected because he
thinks that Trump will do his bidding
and will essentially engage in war
with Iran on behalf of Netanyahu,
in addition to allowing
the Israeli government to do
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whatever they want with the West Bank
and other Palestinian territory.
So what are your thoughts on Trump
potentially pursuing war with Iran?
Yeah.
So that's that's such a great question.
So the other day,
I had Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi here.
Right.
So when he's here,
we're having a conversation together.
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One of the things I played is I played
the clip of me asking President Trump
when he was on the podcast saying,
hey, Iran, the last time you
put sanctions, there was so much pressure
that Iran almost fell.
Okay.
Voter turnout. All this stuff was high.
Right now, Iran has the lowest
voter turnout it's ever had.
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Only 39% showed up.
I said, would you be willing to do
everything necessary to help Iran go back
to what it once used to be in the 70s,
where the regime falls
and it goes back to democracy?
And he didn't even hesitate.
He just stopped me right there
and says, look, Pat, we don't even know
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how to regulate ourselves,
let alone another country.
It took him half a second to respond
when he said that.
I don't think he's
on the same page with Bibi.
I do think, you know,
there is camera talk that you do,
and sometimes you're speaking on camera,
but people don't know what you're really
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talking to your husband, right?
Sometimes you're talking to your wife.
Sometimes you're talking just like we
may talk to our your wife or anybody.
Sometimes he uses the camera
to talk to world leaders.
He's done this many, many times,
and he's very strategic with the way
he did with the with Kissinger
when he brought Schumer in.
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When he did, he brought Pelosi in.
I'm going to shut down the government.
I'll take the responsibility.
He likes to use that, right.
I think with the camera he may be saying
something with Bibi, but I think behind
closed doors, I don't know if he's going
to want that war to be there with him.
I don't think that's a priority.
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Now, let's say the other part
to be thinking about this,
we already know on the first one he did
not create wars on the first one, right?
Meaning the first four years.
This is a second term.
Sometimes when you run for office.
My opinion your first term.
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Maybe if you said you're going
to do five things, you only do two of them
and you don't do the other three
with the hopes of getting reelected.
Well, he didn't get reelected
the first time, but now he's getting
reelected for his second term.
Right.
Is he going to go for everything?
Because this is a legacy term.
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Is he going to be pushing
the envelope Hardcore.
What is he going to be going
for the next four years?
Everybody wants something, you know,
Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, right?
Everybody has something
that what's going to be his.
Is it going to be peace?
Is it going to be economy.
Is it going to be wall?
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Is it going to be getting rid of the ACA?
What is it?
Is it going to be exposing the DOJ, the
CIA, doing the Twitters file, FBI files?
Is that what it's going to be?
What is going to be his legacy?
But if he all of a sudden goes pro-war
on his second term, it's going to really
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hurt the fact that on the first term,
he was a non-war president.
Everyone's going to forget about what
happened on the first term, and everyone's
going to say, oh, that was just one term.
He really all along wanted war.
I'm not convinced he's going to do that.
And I hope a Bebe and some others
don't drag America into it.
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Knowing his ability to negotiate offline
and using camera and media.
I think he's going to be
my my my success rate.
I would put him on this
on what I think is going to happen.
I think 70, 30, he's going to listen
to him and not be as aggressive
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as he's been under Biden again.
My opinion?
- Yeah.
- All right.
Well, it's going to be really interesting
to see because either the right wing base
is correct about Trump or Benjamin
Netanyahu is correct about Trump,
but they can't both be right, because
Netanyahu definitely thinks that Trump's
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going to help him start the war in Iran.
So now we're all waiting
to see what happens.
But Patrick, David,
thank you for joining us, brother,
and let's keep the conversation going.
I like that it's not the old days
where all we do is yell at each other
with talking points and stuff,
and we're having real conversations
and finding common ground
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and plenty of things we still disagree on.
So thank you.
- Appreciate you joining.
- Us. And say hi to Vinny for us.
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